W00t New interface!

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Steven_Hansen 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 03:43

I think I might be here before this is done, but this new interface is looking pretty snazzy! :) Keep up the good work!

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EvilSmile 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 04:09

@Steven Hansen

I think I might be here before this is done, but this new interface is looking pretty snazzy! :) Keep up the good work!

Also, now I have a link to “New Posts” right on the front page. :)

But where did my Avatar go! :eek:

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Mihail121 102 Sep 13, 2005 at 04:33

Yeah, that new interface is just so cool \^\^ Nice work, dear DevMaster staff!!! Please continue with presenting us pleasent suprises!!

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NomadRock 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 04:34

my poor avatar :(

Most everything I generally use seems to be re implemented here though. This will take a bit of getting used to ;p

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anubis 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 06:26

Somehow when I want to reply to old posts I get loged out and can’t reply to the post. The post in question is Reedbeta’s “Optimitzing Raytracing” thread.

edit : Never mind, it worked now. I like the new interface, too.

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_oisyn 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 07:23

Looking nice, great job :)

Some minor details though:
- Avatars are missing? I enabled them in my profile
- I can’t seem to find my private message center (I’ve got an email telling me that I have a private message, following the link doesn’t work; it brought me to the forum index)
- ~~The “today’s post” only shows the post made this day (well, duh ;)), but I’m not an everyday visitor so I like the old “recent posts” link more.~~ Disregard that, that’s exactly what the “new posts” link does :)
- Quickreply is disabled until you click on one of the clickreply buttons of one of the posts. Can’t this be the top-level post by default?

.edit: and it seems that the strikethough tag (~~) is missing :)
.edit2: and I found the private messages as well ;)
~~

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Tufty 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 11:03

Sorry to be a downer on the new interface, but I absolutely, totally, HATE IT.

I’ve always disliked vBulletin anyway, and now we’re using it here, I remember why. It just feels clunky. True, it has lots of features, but it’s ugly, slow, and hard to get around. Posts are still showing as unread even after I’ve clicked into them, the avatars are gone, there’s far too much content to see on one page… I’d have been far far happier staying with the old forums.

I used to check this site several times a day, because of the way the forums were a natural extension of the rest of the site. Now, I’ll probably visit a lot less often just so I don’t have to put up with the crap vBulletin system. Sorry.

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Noor 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 11:37

as dia pointed out, the forums are still beta. New features are comming soon!

special thanks to Truevision3D for the funding of Licensing for this forum software!

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bladder 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 12:50

@Tufty

Sorry to be a downer on the new interface, but I absolutely, totally, HATE IT.

I’ve always disliked vBulletin anyway, and now we’re using it here, I remember why. It just feels clunky. True, it has lots of features, but it’s ugly, slow, and hard to get around. Posts are still showing as unread even after I’ve clicked into them, the avatars are gone, there’s far too much content to see on one page… I’d have been far far happier staying with the old forums.

I used to check this site several times a day, because of the way the forums were a natural extension of the rest of the site. Now, I’ll probably visit a lot less often just so I don’t have to put up with the crap vBulletin system. Sorry.

Aww c’mon Tufty, it’s not *all* bad. You’ll get used to it after a while, and besides we all know that you can’t possibly stay away from us no matter what kind of forum software this site uses ;)

And don’t worry about the forums not being a natural extension anymore, it’s being worked on and gradually the rest of the site will be resynched.

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_oisyn 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 12:57

@Tufty

Sorry to be a downer on the new interface, but I absolutely, totally, HATE IT. I’ve always disliked vBulletin anyway

Therefore I think your opinion is more emotional than it is justified. I don’t see a lot of difference between vBulletin and the earlier Invision (it was Invision, wasn’t it?), surely not the “too much information per page”. It’s more something getting used to, and “it’s bad _because_ it’s vBulletin” isn’t a valid argument.

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dk 158 Sep 13, 2005 at 14:03

Posts are still showing as unread even after I’ve clicked into them

That’s because the forums just got installed. Give it some time…

I used to check this site several times a day, because of the way the forums were a natural extension of the rest of the site. Now, I’ll probably visit a lot less often just so I don’t have to put up with the crap vBulletin system. Sorry.

It is always hard to have everyone satisfied. As I said, over time we’ll gradually take away the unnecessary and extra unneeded features. But even before, the old forums weren’t really an extension of the whole site. The next phase is to unify the interface of the forums and site.

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dk 158 Sep 13, 2005 at 14:15

Avatars are missing? I enabled them in my profile

Yeah, they are disabled at the moment. They’ll be back soon (some things are being sorted out).

Quickreply is disabled until you click on one of the clickreply buttons of one of the posts. Can’t this be the top-level post by default?

Yeah, the click can be disabled, but that would defeat the purpose of sub-threads. If it were enabled by default, most users would natually just enter without considering for which post the reply is for. However, if the majority of here aren’t using the ‘threaded-view” of the threads, then we can have it enabled by default.

and it seems that the strikethough tag is missing

It is working now ;)

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_oisyn 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 14:36

@Dia

Yeah, the click can be disabled, but that would defeat the purpose of sub-threads. If it were enabled by default, most users would natually just enter without considering for which post the reply is for. However, if the majority of here aren’t using the ‘threaded-view” of the threads, then we can have it enabled by default.

Yeah, well, I personally don’t see the point in threaded forums, you have quotes anyway, and what if you want to combine multiple replies in a single post ;). But seriously, I think now it’s the other way around: people have to click somewhere in order to get the quickreply working, and I think most people tend to move the mouse the least as possible; so the last post gets replied on the most, although it isn’t necessarily a reply to that particular post. So instead of the linear thread you suggest, you get the other kind linear thread where every new post is a reply to the last.

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Tufty 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 16:07

You’re right, I won’t be able to stay away. But I still don’t like it :)

.oisyn, my dislike for vBulletin is a usability thing - every site I visit that uses it, I find it difficult to navigate and just generally use. Maybe part of that’s because I’m a regular user of phpBB, but I just think that vBulletin has far too many features that most users will never ever use.

Oh well, if you guys reckon you can make it work eventually, it’ll be good to see, and I’ll give it a chance, but for the record, I don’t think I’ll like it no matter what you do to it, because of the things that you can’t change about the vBulletin core.

One suggestion I’d like you to consider - put a link at the bottom of the threads to go back to the forum page the threads in - I don’t like having to scroll back up a long page to be able to click the link again.

I don’t like threaded forums either :D

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roel 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 19:11

The ‘new posts’ thing is a real advantage! and I prefer these colors :)

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darqSHADOW 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 20:04

special thanks to Truevision3D for the funding of Licensing for this forum software!

I’d like to thank DevMaster for providing such a great resource for game developers, which is the primary reason we decided to sponsor the forums. It will take a bit of getting used to, but I am very happy to see the upgrade has finally started. I cannot wait to see what comes up in the future for DevMaster and the game development community as a whole.

DS

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Ed_Mack 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 20:50

@Dia

It is always hard to have everyone satisfied. As I said, over time we’ll gradually take away the unnecessary and extra unneeded features.

Please be ruthless. Keep no cruft!

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Mihail121 102 Sep 13, 2005 at 21:15

lol… the “report bad post” option is really cool \^\^

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Methulah 101 Sep 13, 2005 at 22:27

@Tufty

You’re right, I won’t be able to stay away. But I still don’t like it :)

.oisyn, my dislike for vBulletin is a usability thing - every site I visit that uses it, I find it difficult to navigate and just generally use. Maybe part of that’s because I’m a regular user of phpBB, but I just think that vBulletin has far too many features that most users will never ever use.

Oh well, if you guys reckon you can make it work eventually, it’ll be good to see, and I’ll give it a chance, but for the record, I don’t think I’ll like it no matter what you do to it, because of the things that you can’t change about the vBulletin core.

One suggestion I’d like you to consider - put a link at the bottom of the threads to go back to the forum page the threads in - I don’t like having to scroll back up a long page to be able to click the link again.

I don’t like threaded forums either :D

I have to say I don’t much like the forums either, it just seems hard to navigate. But anyway, congratulations for getting it working, and I hope to see the forums looking like the rest of the site, not the other way round.:lol:

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dk 158 Sep 13, 2005 at 23:33

Why is it hard to navigate? Can you explain?
I’m sure it’s just a matter of getting use to it.

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Methulah 101 Sep 14, 2005 at 06:05

of course it is. When I first turned up, it only had one post on each thread visible, and I had to click up the top to get new ones. I think that has changed. The main thing that makes it difficult is the useless space everywhere. This is probably a theme/css issue, but there is useless space that could be used to make it easier to browse. For example, look at the space between this post and the quick reply box.

I know it is no good just saying “I don’t like it” and wondering why there is no chance :), but I think that in time, we will get used to it. I hope that we will see this look more like the rest of the site, not vice versa. The rest of the site looks awesome, this looks like a forum theme (with good reason too!).

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Tufty 101 Sep 14, 2005 at 07:08

Well, the changes to the theme that have been made so far are already making the place look nicer. And altering the position of the user info so it’s down the side again - can’t think why the default is above the post, it just clutters up too much!

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SpreeTree 101 Sep 14, 2005 at 10:30

This might be just me being slow, but I couldn’t find an option to edit a post I made a few weeks back… The options wasn’t in the ‘thread’ options in the bar at the top of the thread, nor could I find an icon?

Slap me if I am being dumb here ;)
Spree

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Tufty 101 Sep 14, 2005 at 12:06

IIRC, vBulletin only allows you to edit your posts for a limited amount of time - if it was made a while back it may not allow you to do it.

It could also be related to changing across to the new system, it might not let you edit posts from before the change.

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SpreeTree 101 Sep 14, 2005 at 15:52

@Tufty

IIRC, vBulletin only allows you to edit your posts for a limited amount of time - if it was made a while back it may not allow you to do it.

Looks like that is the case, since the post I made on here has an edit button. That sucks slightly, because now I can’t edit my original help wanted post. Damn new board also changed my icon on that post to a thumbs down… Maybe it knows something I don’t!

Thanks
Spree

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dk 158 Sep 14, 2005 at 17:04

Editing is disallowed after 24 hours from the post (except for mods). This is mainly to prevent people from modifying a thread and causing the rest of the discussion to be inconsistent. This can be disabled though.

SpreeTree: If you want, you could post a follow-up on your help-wanted thread. Would that work?

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SpreeTree 101 Sep 14, 2005 at 17:56

@Dia

SpreeTree: If you want, you could post a follow-up on your help-wanted thread. Would that work?

I’s just added a new reply with the new information, and since the links always go to the last post anywa, thats cool. It’s not a problem, this is the first post I have ever made that I have wanted to edit after 5 minutes anyway.

Thanks
Spree

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davepermen 101 Sep 14, 2005 at 17:58

for the ones requesting for smaller spaces between to get more space for the actual content:

get a notebook with 1400x1050 res :D or a screen with something like that, or bigger :D then, it’s no issue anymore, hehe..

but for real.. yes, removing a bit of useless space is always useful :D

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Ed_Mack 101 Sep 14, 2005 at 20:10

BTW, Thanks TrueVision 3d :) (I said this in the private forum last time, duh /me)

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Methulah 101 Sep 14, 2005 at 23:43

Yeah, W00t for TV3D. My monitor on the other hand… only supports 1024x768. It was hardly worth buying that 6600GT. Oh well. Maybe I can get some money some day :).

One thing I like though, is the lack of loading time once you post, edit and all that jazz. I could get used to this forum.