Junk engines on a roll this year?

Mihail121 102 Oct 20, 2004 at 06:02

Ok, what is wrong with you people?? In the last couple o’ weeks we had more than 40 new engines uploaded. What’s bad about that, you ask? Well the most of them have not been updated since 1998! There are 3 or 4 cool ones, which i can test under FreeDOS but the rest is simply useless junk! Can somebody do something about that… it’s kinda crappy..

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aib 101 Oct 21, 2004 at 06:55


Imagine you are a librarian. One day you look at your books and decide to throw out useless ones (you think they are useless because nobody reads them since 1998 :) ). What will you answer to the visitor asking for these books?

These engines exist. Yes, they are inactive (it’s shown in their status), but you can still download them and look at their source code. Not everybody is looking for the engines with pixel shaders, there are people (many people!) looking for very simple engines only with texture mapping. These engines are also interesting for educational purposes.

fyhuang 101 Oct 21, 2004 at 19:11

DOS engines can be the most educational, far more than ones with advanced pixel shaders. You can understand them a lot easier, yet they still have world-class optimizations (most of them anyways…).

Think if you were an author and you wrote a book. The library analogy is great, because if your book were to be taken off the shelves because no one’s ever checked it out, you would be really, really pissed.

All engines deserve a rightful place in the world. If no one ever stopped to look at the underdogs, the world would be filled with cliches and would be monopolized, which we all know can be devastating to society. You may even find that a small engine has a neat programming trick which no large engine has ever thought of.

Well, that’s my opinion, feel free to disagree.

NomadRock 101 Oct 21, 2004 at 23:52

Still, we should make it easy for people to find active engines, or at least current generation engines.

bladder 101 Oct 22, 2004 at 00:13

All engines have an “active/inactive” flag. But you cant search based on that criteria in the advanced search section. I suppose that criteria should be added. But searching for current generation engines is pretty easy to do. Just specify programmable pipline - you wont get any dos engines then.

fyhuang 101 Oct 22, 2004 at 00:18

If there isn’t, there should be an option to sort by activity, date of last update, or something like that.

dk 158 Oct 22, 2004 at 01:50

Actually, you can search based on activity. There’s a field in the Advanced Search page for “Status”. Just select one of them besides ‘Inactive’ to only show the active engines. Or, as bladder suggusted, select some advanced features to show the current generation engines.

fyhuang: In the top-right, you will find that you can sort the list by date updated, date added, name, and rating. Sorting by activity is meaningless I think.

Alexey mentioned a good analogy, which is that there are still people who could be interested in such inactive engines - mostly for learning purposes. Most of those engines in fact rely on software rendering, which is a good way to learn it.

Mihail121 102 Oct 22, 2004 at 07:58

I believe there are enough good examples at programmers heaven..