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lolidus 101 Sep 09, 2004 at 14:00

can i ask to have some of your opinion about AI nowadays and about those movies that related to AI… :nod: :nod: :nod:

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anubis 101 Sep 09, 2004 at 14:04

woah… broad topic !
maybe you should get the ball rolling :) any particular movie in mind ?

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knackered3 101 Sep 11, 2004 at 17:12

I, Robot. Obviously.

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anubis 101 Sep 11, 2004 at 17:40

well… we could also talk about 2001 or blade runner :) i haven’t seen I,Robot and i’m not overly desperate to see it either. anyway, i’m still waiting for a reply by the author :)

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knackered3 101 Sep 11, 2004 at 22:11

I recommend you watch I,Robot. The CG cinematography is exceptional, even if nothing else is.

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anubis 101 Sep 11, 2004 at 23:58

i take your word for it. maybe i’ll get it on dvd once it is out

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NeZbiE 101 Sep 12, 2004 at 06:10

The movie itself was such a dissapointment. It featured virtually none of the core themes that made the book by Asimov such a masterpiece.

In any case, the little AI I have actually worked on (rather simplistic, for a few different mini-games) turned out to just be well placed intelligent “if” tests and entirely condition based. Any action taken without analyzing parameters or conditions would most likely rotate around some mathematical equation involving random seeds. Of course, I have not done any real research on the topic =)

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Mihail121 102 Sep 12, 2004 at 15:48

Hey anubis it is out! You can buy it on E-MULE… really cheap!

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davepermen 101 Sep 12, 2004 at 18:44

i liked the movie, as i stated yet.

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TheNut 179 Sep 12, 2004 at 23:34

All I care about is being the first to program Skynet / HAL / Master Control Program. Then I’ll be a trillionaire!

As for the movies, they’re all good entertainment. 2 hours well wasted.

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LuciferX 101 Sep 16, 2004 at 06:18

God creates man.
Man kills god.
Man creates AI.
AI kills man.

The only real question is what would the AI create after we are gone;)
[and how would it kill them?]

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fyhuang 101 Sep 16, 2004 at 23:12

AI creates AAI (Artificial Artificial Intelligence ;) )

Seriously though, AI is lagging a bit in relation to graphics in some games. Take, for example, Ground Control II (not to sway your opinion on the game or something though…). Great, great graphics, but the AI and interface is horrible. Micromanagement is the main theme here (and although many RTSers may argue that they like micromanagement, this is a lot worse than you might think…), and I’m completely sure that AI from 5-10 years ago could have easily beat this. I’m shooting at the enemy with my tank and they’re sitting there doing absolutely nothing. I think that they should at least respond to fire and help out their friends. That’s the basic RTS AI today, but it’s doesn’t show in GC2.

Well, my opinion anyways.

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davepermen 101 Sep 17, 2004 at 15:35

@LuciferX

God creates man.
Man kills god.
Man creates AI.
AI kills man.

The only real question is what would the AI create after we are gone;)
[and how would it kill them?]

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AI creates BI, BI -> CI …

i thought that was funny.. then i realised that its actually true

Humans create AI, Artificial Intelligence
AI creates BI, Biological Intelligence (as they killed it, they wanna create an own one now)
BI creates CI, Computing Intelligence (as the lifeforms killed all AI, they create it from new, now, too..)

i bet after dinosaurs, there was not an ice age, but an age of AI! then we came, and now they will come back!

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ShadowHawk 101 Sep 23, 2004 at 08:53

Well according to the movies that i have seen they are in the future but still not impossible. True now it seems far feched but then again Neural nets and genetic algoritms can go a long way when it comes to AI.
10 years ago a robot that could find its way around the house would be impossible but now they are here simple cleaning machines that clean the house. Or robots that assist at hospitals ( or at least there are prototypes ).

In about 10 years we will be looking at the level of a dog or cat in terms of intelligence easy ( maby even terminator style inteligence )

Well that’s at least what i think about it.

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anubis 101 Sep 23, 2004 at 14:36

you think in 10 years we will have robots with social bahaviour on the level of dogs ? maybe we will have robots that can move like a dog. movement and processing of visual signals is currently the most challenging problems and they will stay around for some time (longer than 10 years for sure)