Feedback for the new DevMaster.net

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dk 158 Sep 08, 2013 at 12:07 devmaster

The new DevMaster.net is finally live and ready for action! As mentioned before, the primary focus of the new redesign has been to focus on the strengths of devmaster: bring the community-driven discussions that happen on a daily basis to the forefront. We’ve scrapped the old front-page and replaced it with the actual discussions that used to happen on the forums. Now, you get to decide what goes on the front-page of the site through the voting tools available beside each post. These votes then drive each user’s reputation/karma. In the future, we’ll use the user’s reputation to provide certain privileges.

The new website allows you to interact with the community in various ways:

  • Have an interesting article you read that you’d like to share?
  • Have a question with a technical challenge you’re facing or about latest industry developments?
  • Want to showcase a project you’ve been working on and provide it some visibility to the community?

We encourage you to start participating! If you run into issues, have suggestions or feedback, please do provide your input here.

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v71 105 Sep 08, 2013 at 16:49

First of all congrats for your hard work , but i have to say that i get some sense of emptyness, white color after a while wears out eyes ,maybe site’s content should be exposed in some kind of tabs or somehting like that. Just my 2 cents. Keep up the good job

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dk 158 Sep 10, 2013 at 00:57

If you referring to empty whitespace, the old forums had even more whitespace with a lot of clutter. In the new layout, more posts can fit on one screen and there’s a lot less distractions.

Regarding the white background, it’s something that we can tweak and adjust as we iterate on the new design.

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dreamteck 101 Sep 08, 2013 at 20:26

Looks interesting. It’s really too white and I miss the old sections. Furthermore I can’t find my old posts- I entered my nickname in the search tool and I searched it in the whole forum - and I found only one. Otherwise I am interested whether there will be a possibility for us to change our avatars. Sorry for the negative post, I know how much work it takes to change a design for a website, hope that things will get better soon ;)

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Reedbeta 167 Sep 09, 2013 at 02:50

I believe the forum uses your Gravatar based on your email address.

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dreamteck 101 Sep 09, 2013 at 17:46

Well one more acount to be done and to be remembered. That still doesn’t help with the missing posts and threads….

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dk 158 Sep 10, 2013 at 00:58

Post history for individual users will be added soon. We wanted to get the site out there first, so we focus on core functionality first.

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dreamteck 101 Sep 16, 2013 at 13:25

well it’s almost a week and the post history is still not available… + I think you should have made everything on the site first and than lettingit go… unless you wait for the feedback and you consider switching back to old site or sth similar. And the thing with the Gravatar… Everytime you make a person making even one more click to have something that is offered by many other “suppliers”you lose a member… That’s why there is an AdBlock for all annoying pop-up adds… and making another acount and maintaining it for one profile picture is… like preparing for a world trip :D

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touch_the_sky 103 Sep 08, 2013 at 22:40

I like it so far.

It’s a bit odd, but in a… stackoverflowy, good way:) Getting used to the “forum gone, use posts” thing now.

So that’s initial impressions, after spending few minutes using new Devmaster

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TheNut 179 Sep 09, 2013 at 01:30

Good job getting the new site live. I tried the new site on my Android phone (LG p999 with Firefox 23) and I think the page margins are a bit much. Need to squeeze it in a bit more to get more text on the screen. Other than that, time to get use to the new site :)

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tyree 102 Sep 09, 2013 at 04:53

it looks more like a board than a forum. there will no longer be sections, announcement, game design

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rouncer 103 Sep 09, 2013 at 04:59

Suits me, Its kinda a fat design, I like it.

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Sol_HSA 119 Sep 09, 2013 at 05:39

Looks odd to see forum posts in a stackexchange format, but, meh, I guess it can work.

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Stainless 151 Sep 09, 2013 at 08:38

I really don’t like it.

Before you had the sense that it was a mature, well coded website.

This to me feels like a thrown together forum based on some open source CMS.

I stress FEELS like, I know it isn’t, but it’s lost something as far as I am concerned.

There’s no formatting of text, no emoticons (I think they are very important to allow you to show the tone of voice you were using when you typed, if you know what I mean … wonder if they just work ;< )

Do the code tags work?

[code] printf(“Testing, testing, 1.2.3….”\n”); [/code]

On the whole, I would vote for the old site back.

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Reedbeta 167 Sep 09, 2013 at 16:57

The new site uses Markdown for formatting (same as StackOverflow, github, etc.). You can post code by indenting it four spaces:

printf("Testing, testing\n");

As for emoticons, of course you can still post text-based emoticons. :) I don’t know that graphical ones are really that necessary.

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Stainless 151 Sep 09, 2013 at 19:52

Can you do a small post with any tricks like that please?

Really indenting by four spaces is not an obvious way to do it, I’ve never bothered with StackOverflow , preferred here.

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Reedbeta 167 Sep 09, 2013 at 20:12

There’s the StackOverflow editing help. There’s also a Markdown tutorial site although it’s kind of annoying. It’s a pretty simple language and mostly stays out of your way.

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Stainless 151 Sep 09, 2013 at 08:52

No editing of messages as well……

You’ve ripped out a lot of core functionality that I use all the time.

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Reedbeta 167 Sep 09, 2013 at 16:56

When you hover your mouse over a post you should see “reply” and “edit” buttons appear to the right of the post.

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tyree 102 Sep 09, 2013 at 11:46

stainless is right, the forum seems to have been gutted. hopefully the individual sections can be redone. and it has lost something with the no frills design

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Sol_HSA 119 Sep 09, 2013 at 12:38

Uh, apparently devmaster.net spams me every time anyone posts in any of the threads I’ve taken a part in.. any way to turn this off? (they went to the spam folder, but it’s probably better that they don’t come at all, unless I request them)

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TheNut 179 Sep 09, 2013 at 13:45

Edit your profile at the top-right of the site and uncheck “Send notification email”.

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Sol_HSA 119 Sep 09, 2013 at 14:18

Thank’ee.

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Stainless 151 Sep 09, 2013 at 16:51

Something is wrong with the “Unread” tab as well.

For me it just gives four articles which aren’t even on this site.

Mandelbrot maths, etc.

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Reedbeta 167 Sep 09, 2013 at 17:20

Yeah, those are external links that someone posted for discussion. If you click the “0 replies” link underneath, it goes to a discussion page where people can post comments about the articles. It is a bit confusing, though. It’s not clear when clicking a link will take you off the site. Some of the posts have an external link, but clicking on the main post goes to the discussion page, and in some of them clicking on the main post goes offsite. Hopefully this is just a bug that will be fixed.

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Stainless 151 Sep 09, 2013 at 19:57

It also doesn’t realise I have looked at them.

Probably because when you click on the title you go to the external site, so you haven’t actually looked at the posting on this site,

Yes, just checked it and if you click on the “0 replies” bit, it logs you have looked at the posting

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Stainless 151 Sep 09, 2013 at 20:09

Actually I have been thinking about it for a while, and the behavior of those posts is a deal breaker for me.

Devmaster is a trusted site, as far as I am concerned. You may get some spam, or someone might hack the user database, but the site is safe.

If someone can post a discussion that takes you straight to a malicious site, I can’t use Devmaster anymore.

Sorry, but it’s as simple as that.

The default behavior HAS to be open the discussion, not go off site.

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dk 158 Sep 10, 2013 at 01:28

The idea of allowing users to post a link is to directly allow sharing of interesting content, which used to happen indirectly before in the old forums. For example, see this discussion, which took place in the old forums.

Although you have a legitimate concern, I’m not sure how it’s different than users posting a link in the post itself. Either way, you have the choice and you can choose not to click on the link if you don’t trust it. We include the domain name of the link to help identify trusted links. Furthermore, we have a voting process that allows the community to “moderate” the posts and what get’s shown on frontpage. We have some anti-spam countermeasures, and we’ll be adding more to ensure this problem is minimized.

As suggested, if you don’t want to click on the link, just click on the “x replies” link to go straight to the discussion. You can also choose to ignore such posts and only participate in the regular topics.

We’re open to feedback and suggestions, so if you have better ways of dealing with this, we’re all ears.

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Reedbeta 167 Sep 10, 2013 at 03:17

BTW, it looks like currently, when you post an external link, the main link on the homepage goes to the discussion rather than directly to the external site. See my “Let’s Get Physical” post on the homepage for example. To get to the external site you have to click the little red arrow. I think this is the desired/correct behavior, and I’m not sure why the CUDA and Mandelbrot links are different - for those two, the main link on the homepage goes to the external site.

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Stainless 151 Sep 10, 2013 at 10:32

Yes that’s the behavior I cannot work with.

If the main link went to the discussion, as it does with your post, all is well.

If it goes to the external site, big problem.

Even if a bug in the design of the site allows you to deliberately code a post this way, it’s only a matter of time before my IT (irritating twat) manager blocks the site

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dk 158 Sep 10, 2013 at 18:33

I agree the behavior is confusing and we’ll change it to be consistent.

However, why is this something you can’t work with? You still have the option of not clicking on the link and just going to the discussion page. Have you tried clicking on the “x replies” link?

Sharing links is a fundamental behavior on the internet. It’s something many sites have thrived on (e.g. Reddit, Facebook, etc.). I’m sure you regularly come across interesting articles and blog posts. This feature allows people to share interesting stuff they find.

Don’t worry about spam. We’ll take measures to ensure it’s minimized. For example, one thing we can do if we find this feature abused, is only allow users with a certain reputation to post links.

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Stainless 151 Sep 11, 2013 at 08:32

I agree, but the key point is that you make the choice to click on a link.

You know it is a link, you know it’s going to an external site, and you make the decision to click on it anyway.

The title of a post here should go to the discussion, not an external site. It takes the decision out of the action, I’m happy to look at anything on this site, I always view offsite links with suspicion.

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fireside 141 Sep 09, 2013 at 19:30

There are things I like about this style, like replying actually makes sense. I tend to like things simple and not overly organized, so I’m sure I’ll get used it it pretty fast. Can we just post a link or is there something we need to do? And how come I can’t add a picture in the profile section? How do you do it?

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Reedbeta 167 Sep 09, 2013 at 19:41

You mean post a new topic on the site? You can do that with the blue “Submit” button at the top right of the list of posts on the main page. There is an entry in the form to put an external link if you want. You can also just post a regular topic, of course.

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fireside 141 Sep 10, 2013 at 02:55

How do you find which comment was unread in the unread comments? They could be anyplace now.

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Reedbeta 167 Sep 10, 2013 at 03:14

There’s a yellow bar on the left side of the unread comments.

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17_Gen_r 105 Sep 10, 2013 at 11:00

Rep points & Karma (Hinduism is pure evil) should be avoided. Cause: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2011/05/10/1008636108. Effect: http://slashdot.org/. Hierarchy among men is a bad thing, we’re all brothers.

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Reedbeta 167 Sep 10, 2013 at 17:03

The StackExchange sites seem to work pretty well with it. Reputation systems aren’t evil by nature.

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SLotman 102 Sep 10, 2013 at 22:26

I don’t know much about the changes done to the site, but I have to agree it looks like a downgrade. The old site with articles, screenshots… looked much more robust and alive.

It’s something so staggering, I had to register and comment. Hope I’m not offending anyone…

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touch_the_sky 103 Sep 11, 2013 at 18:32

newest tab appears down

hmm..

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Vilem_Otte 117 Sep 13, 2013 at 23:51

Hard to tell what I think. The site definitely goes better under Linux and BSD operating systems (it had been terribly slow in Linux version of Opera), now it is a lot better.

On the other hand I miss categories (at least a bit divided), anyways I use StackOverflow from time to time - so I will keep spamming here also. Almost like SO, but not SO :D

And now I am terribly hurt, it seems like I can’t use my own photo instead of default picture (crying out so loud)

And uhm… reputation is somehow reset? As I think I got something around 20, and now I got 102 - which is basically in different numbers, as Reed had several more than me if I remember correctly, but now has 108, although he should have like 150 or so … so it got globally reset I guess?

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Reedbeta 167 Sep 14, 2013 at 01:57

For your picture, the forum uses your Gravatar based on your email address. If you upload an image there it will show up on various websites, like blog comments and suchlike.

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Stainless 151 Sep 14, 2013 at 14:01

But that requires joining wordpress.com

Not really interested in creating yet another account on something I never want to use just to change an avatar

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fireside 141 Sep 14, 2013 at 16:20

I felt the same way. I did it, but now someone else has my email address.

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Emo 101 Oct 04, 2013 at 17:10

I’ve been trolling the page for years. It’s very helpful. However, I really miss all of the search features for Engines that used to exist.

I think we should really be able to filter and/or order the engine search on active or not, most recently updated (VERY helpful for me), number of reviews….etc.

The look of the site if fine…I just miss the search/filter/order functionality that used to exist.

Just my 2 cents.

Thanks! Emo10001

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Stainless 151 Nov 23, 2013 at 08:16

Well I’ve lived with the new website for a month or two, given myself plenty of time to get used to it…..

and I still hate it.

Sorry guys, but for me the last website was far superior to this one.

I miss the sections hugely, hell it took me five minutes to find this post! I miss smilies and the simple post formatting system. I miss the look and feel I miss being able to upload my own avatar image

I just miss the old website.

While I admire what you have tried to do, I just don’t like the end result.

It may just be me of course. Anybody else feel the same?

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Hyper 96 Mar 30, 2014 at 19:50

You took the words RIGHT out of my mouth! I was going to post a lengthy post explaining my issue regarding a small project I just started (design related): But I’m not sure “where to post it” now… :(

I seriously prefer the former ‘image’ forum that DevMaster sported!