I think this is no surprise to most.
They had to write down about 900 million on surface rt. PC sales are
down thanks to a rotten OS that was designed for a tablet, and no one
wants the stupid tablet.
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I think that microsoft did a brave move, they bet a lot on that os, but
unfortunately they were too much sure of themselves, i agree with you
when you say that eveyr device needs a fitting OS. Microsoft showed us
that this concept still stays on in these days, they are just paying the
consequenses oif their actions.
What i’d like to see from them is to do waht Apple did, ship two
different Os one for desktop and one for tablets.
It’s not completely Balmer’s fault. Desktop devices are lasting longer,
which means sales will be lower. We don’t have quite the need for
processor speed that we used to, especially for desktop applications. It
mostly boils down to games and entertainment devices now. Still, I think
Ballmer is misreading the market and causing Microsoft more problems
than necessary. A tablet OS could have been made cheaper and sold
cheaper, making it more competitive with the other devices. People are
used to desktop OS’s and this type of change on them seems kind of
stupid to most. They just use the desktop portion of Windows 8 and try
to ignore the big stupid icons that don’t really work on a desktop.
Microsoft needs to make penetration into tablets and keep it’s position
with it’s console, plus hold onto it’s desktop near monopoly. Balmer is
doing a poor job at most of those things. It’s almost too late on the
tablet front now. It’s hard say how Xbox one will do. I think it will do
all right, but they won’t really gain any ground.
Something like Windows 8 could work if they use a camera for input, but
they’re not promoting anything like that. The truth is, Balmer is head
of the company because he was Bill Gates buddy and that’s a pretty
stupid thing to do.
All I ever wanted was xp with the improvements of the later operating
systems. I don’t know why they didn’t just create a separate division
for the mobile platforms. There is nothing I hate more than being told
what to do. I now wish I had spent time with OGL than learning dx as
with every move they seem to try and trap you into there latest os in
able to use the latest feature set. It all seems so restrictive. maybe
I’m closed minded but I went with windows 7 over 8 when I last upgraded,
windows 8 didn’t have anything I wanted only it looked like more work to
get an xp like interface to work in. but hey maybe I’m just trapped in
the wrong era I don’t even want or own a mobile device. Also people are
getting more tech savvy I believe and a shiny new number added to
something doesn’t warrant an upgrade. but I might be alone here. I agree
with you fireside the xbox one will probably sell well the consoles
always sell well a lot of people I know get both major consoles every
generation anyway. It’s really the kids who will be limited to a choice
of either and really the games will be the true pulling point for what
they badgfer their parents for. just what I feel about these things
That’s another mistake they are making, closing off directx from older
os’s. All it did was to get people to play games on something else
instead of their computer. That’s why consoles will be as popular as
ever. Most people don’t want to waste the money on the constant upgrade
cycle of computers.
I don’t know why analysts and PRs keep touting tablets as the Panacea of
the PC market. The tablet was a new trend that some people bought into.
It’s not that big of a deal. Desktops are more than alive and kicking,
the problem is the need to upgrade them is becoming less of a need
unless you’re into gaming. 5 or 6 years ago Intel released the dual
core. For doing e-mails, word documents, and playing simple games it’s
more than powerful enough. The CPU is becoming less and less of an
important factor, especially since most PC gaming performance can be
improved simply by replacing your GPU. Smartphones on the other hand are
still fairly new and many people demand their phones work faster. So
there is much work and profit to be made on that front. However, that
too will one day reach its peek and the only reason you would upgrade
your smartphone is to play better games. I’m pretty sure by then you
will see smartphone sales slump.
I don’t think Windows 8 is a terrible OS. I do believe their tile system
should have been installed and ran as a normal app rather than
integrated into the desktop, but the OS itself is nothing to fret about.
Windows 8 is essentially Windows 7, with minute changes like the tile
system and overall system improvements. Hardly worth upgrading to. As
far as Surface and Windows 7/8 phone goes, well… That was not an
innovation. Microsoft is doing exactly what Apple is doing. Being a
tyrant and walling off innovation and freedoms by putting a tight leech
around the necks of all developers and consumers so that they can make
more money off the platform. Unfortunately for Microsoft, there’s only
room in this industry for one tyrant and Apple was here first. Had
Microsoft opened up their platform and offered more choices for
developers and consumers, just like they do with the desktop, then I
think we would be reading a more successful story today. Alas, it will
take Microsoft a few more slumps before they catch on that platforms
like Android are preferred, just without the messy fragmentation.
I agree. The more Microsoft copies Apple, the more people will turn to
Android or Chrome OS. There is a set of people that want a company to
make all their decisions for them, and there is a larger set of people
that don’t. Apple has the former market tied up. They do it well.
If you used Windows 8 everyday, you wouldn’t like it. You have to be
careful to keep your mouse out of the upper corners, where many app
menu’s are, because it has hot spots in those areas which are useless,
so it’s basically a very annoying Windows 7 without a start menu. You
can download a 3rd party app to give you a start menu, but it doesn’t
feel quite right or work quite right. It’s the worst OS I’ve ever used.
The tiles are big, stupid, and annoying and used for advertising
Microsoft more than anything else. It’s a huge step down from the task
bar for changing apps and keeping track of what you are doing. It’s like
someone who’s initials are S.B. decided this little kiddy toy was cool
and decided to force everyone to use it. Man alive, Bill, fire your
buddy and give him a good compensation package while you still have a
company or you won’t be the richest man in the world much longer.
Im getting a new computer with the new operating system, so im ready to
puke when I get it.
to rouncer, why not simply change the operating system. version 8, isnt
the only 64bit operating system
I read somewhere that there is a lot of money to be made at the moment
removing windows 8 and replacing it with windows 7
Anybody else heard anything on this?