Enough room for us gamedev.net exiles?

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Nyx 101 Sep 26, 2006 at 17:51

Hello everyone,

I’m new to DevMaster.net. If any of you visit (or used to visit) the gamedev.net forums, you may remember me as “Max Payne”. I’m the leader of the xGameProject development team (www.xgameproject.com, currently under reconstruction).

To make a long story short, I’ve been on the gamedev forums since 2001, and well, not so long ago, they decided to perma ban me for posting content which they judged “completely inappropriate”. More precisely, participating in some insignificant joke thread that asked people to post “the first image that comes up when looking up your username on the google image search”. You can try looking up “Max Payne” for yourself, and see what comes up as the first image: they banned me for posting that in a joke thread. I probably should have seen it coming as most of the moderators hated me for having different opinions from the majority on a variety of topics.

But anyways, long before this incident, I expressed my thoughts that gamedev.net was steering completely off track. It was no longer about making games, no longer about posting useful content. Its now about selling books, and making the moderators look smart (the vast majority of which are simply not involved in game development at all). The reason for this seems simple to me: the one man who brought the whole site to life, Kevin Hawkins, has not been actively participating in years… And well, it’s been years since anyone has posted a remotely complete article on there. This isn’t necessarily because nobody wants to. A year ago, I proposed to make a complete “Creating a Minimalist 3D Engine from A to Z” tutorial for them, which would have guided people through the design and implementation process, and include full source code and screenshots. Their answer was that they already had the “enginuity” series, and that they were not interested.

I felt the need to look for another community because, well, it kind of sucks not having much contact with other people that are interested in game development besides those you already know. I’m looking for a community to “affiliate” my project with. For a place to discuss technical issues, meet people with similar interests, and also recruit potential new members. DevMaster looks like a nice and simple site, with genuine content, and hopefully will be running for several years. So here I am, if you will accept me. I promess not to post terribly obscene, child-corrupting screenshots from the Max Payne game ;)

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bladder 101 Sep 26, 2006 at 20:33

ohhhh, so that’s what happened… I was wondering where you went off too… IIRC me and you had a tussle as well one time. Don’t remember when or what the topic was about but whatever, welcome and be good :)

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Nick 102 Sep 26, 2006 at 20:52

Over here we tolerate pink colored 3D renderings. I believe. ;) And having a different opinion is generally considered a good thing… So, welcome!

Since there’s already an engine database and lots of people come here to discuss excisting and new engine technology, please feel very free to start that “Creating a Minimalist 3D Engine from A to Z” tutorial. :yes:

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kurtmax_0 101 Sep 26, 2006 at 21:37

Hello everybody. I’m from the gamedev.net forums as well. Over the past year or so they seem to have deteriorated badly. I haven’t seen an intelligent thread there for a very long time.

Nyx here showed me devmaster.net and you seem to be more about game development than gamedev.net (quite ironic…). So anyways, I hope to check this site out more often.

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Grellin 101 Oct 02, 2006 at 23:28

I have to agree with you all. I spent about an hour sifting through the lounge and didn’t see one I hate America thread or overbearing Mods belittling people.

This looks like my new spot for questions.

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dave_ 101 Oct 03, 2006 at 00:03

I’ve not had any trouble with any mods at GD.net but I still don’t like it as much as devmaster.
The main gripes I have are:

Signal to noise ratio. There’s to much random chat. There’s a guy ranting in the lounge about how he’s too fat and not happy in a male body.
And another very long thread about a teacher losing their job in texas.
There is one about laptop, that the level i’d consider ok for off topic on a game dev site.

Even when a post is useful, you sometimes get dozens of responses for already answered questions, and none for interesting technical questions.

Rating system. It just doesnt work. I’ve posted dozens of helpful answers yet I still get modded down for no reason.

Why post this here? Well, I felt like a rant, but also I just want to make sure devmaster doesnt go the same way!

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stodge 101 Oct 04, 2006 at 14:59

I don’t know what the fuss is - I never read the lounge forums at gamedev.net, so ignore them if you think they’re full of crap. I’ve not had problems with any moderators and I usually get good responses from my posts.

Pot, kettle, black? :whistle:

Heh heh, sorry couldn’t resist.

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_oisyn 101 Oct 04, 2006 at 15:20

@Grellin

I spent about an hour sifting through the lounge and didn’t see one I hate America thread

Hey who removed those threads?! :)

Welcome :)
@stodge

I don’t know what the fuss is - I never read the lounge forums at gamedev.net, so ignore them if you think they’re full of crap. I’ve not had problems with any moderators and I usually get good responses from my posts. Pot, kettle, black? :whistle:

Well, just because you sent your own nude pictures to the gamedev moderators doesn’t mean we all should.

Heh heh, sorry couldn’t resist.

Right back at ya :yes: