16 replies to this topic

[Noor]

Good news! I recieved an invitation to create a gmail account. I've been trying it, and so far so good.

[Mihail121]

Maybe it's the end of the endless Yahoo problems but you know what they say - one good thing comes at the price of two bad ;)

[Noor]

http://www.spymac.com offers 1GB free email storage...

[anubis]

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one good thing comes at the price of two bad

like your mail being scanned, even for phone numbers, adresses, names, etc. in my book that accounts for at least three bad things :)

[davepermen]

gmail is no different to any other service. they all scan and analyze. whats the point?

[bladder]

sweet!

How do you get an invite anyways? do you have to know people from google or something, or do you apply somwhere?

[Noor]

I got invited from a guy that works at google. and about that privacy issues, if its even an issue, its just a computer algorithmic programs that scans the email, it doesn’t even record the email, it merely scans, so non of the email content gets saved.

[anubis]

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gmail is no different to any other service. they all scan and analyze. whats the point?

which is why i don't have a webmail account... i never heard of any ISP that doesn't give you a mail address, so why use webmail at all ?

[davepermen]

i've nothing to hide, so i don't have any problem with being "open sourced" as well :D

web.de is fine for me, though. but i'd like to have more webspace.. :D

[alia]

:wtf:

Hmm didnt know they did that..

(*wanders off to cancel his account*)

Thats just damn scary.
:eek:

Hmm I also "have nothing to hide" but i dont think ill let them errode my privacy just for profit.
:sigh:

and i was all excited about having a nice fast webmail account for my travels. oh well.

A.

[davepermen]

whats the mather? they HAVE to parse the data in some way, at least to work with it. it doesn't mean they bother AT ALL about whats in. even gmail doesn't bother. they just parse, and feed their everywhere known google ad dude with it. the whole web gets feed into that anyways!

i'm quite happy they DO scan it. there aren't any vires, nor any spam comming around on web.de. this only due constant scanning and analysing of all mail.

they can't care about individual mails. they can only care about statistics of all the users. and that, that helps all.

[anubis]

i don't like my personal information scanned... and yes they do care what's in it, at least to the extent they can market your personal information. /. and heise.de had some articles about it. i will try to find them...

[anubis]

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they can only care about statistics of all the users. and that, that helps all

inserting context related ads in my mails goes to far for me

[davepermen]

it's just a search and insert. i don't see anything evil in this. the only evil is an advert sidebar that is autogenerated.

they don't scan you. an algo does. thousands of algos scan all your data.

[anubis]

so from this i should conclude that scanning my data is ok ? i agree that it is ok to some extent but at a certain limit it interferes with my personal life... i don't need that and i try to avoid it as much as i can

[davepermen]

i don't see anything rather wrong with it. it doesn't affect your privacy, nor does it hurt you.

it just scans for things, and plugs some ads. who cares? it doesn't build up any huge database, that gets sold to adsystems, or anything. it's just processing it to add some html. nothing really big. as i said, that happens everywhere.

i do understsand the issues. but in this case, it's really just an algorithm. and a database, that gets feed by the mere statistics. not statistics about YOU, just statistics about the whole system.

[anubis]

good for you if you don't have a problem with that. but i for one do... anyway, this is futile... let's drop the subject