# Point Sprites

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### #1bojkar

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 09:05 PM

Hello everyone.
I have problem with point sprites. I set point size :


glPointSize(20);



But this isn't work. When camera is far all is ok but when is near particles are very very small. What is wrong?

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### #2Rubicon

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 11:10 PM

not sure about ogl, but they probably suffer the same problem as with D3D since they're both just interfaces to the same hardware.

You can't have infinite sized particles. I think there's a caps bit in D3D (I ignore it myself) that tells you how big this is, but I think its 64x64 pixels on most cards. Even if that's wrong, the limit is way short of fullscreen sizes.

It may even be small enough so a texture applied to one will fit entirely within the texture cache. Just guessing here.
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### #3juhnu

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 03:01 PM

I would recommend you to use just normal triangles instead of point sprites - the point sprite support across different hardware is not robust enough.. waste of time.

### #4Rubicon

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 04:30 PM

Actually, for particles I'd recomend point sprites!

You never want them to go full screen because of fill-rate issues anyway, and the bandwidth saving of sending 1 vertex instead of 4 or 6 will increase your performance by around that factor (ie 4x as many point sprites, give or take.) in any real-world situation.
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### #5bojkar

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 06:30 PM

ok I use point sprites because is the most fast. But why points change self size?

### #6juhnu

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 05:48 PM

Rubicon said:

Actually, for particles I'd recomend point sprites!

You never want them to go full screen because of fill-rate issues anyway, and the bandwidth saving of sending 1 vertex instead of 4 or 6 will increase your performance by around that factor (ie 4x as many point sprites, give or take.) in any real-world situation.
Sorry, but I can't resist asking if you still would recommend people to use them? ;)

### #7Rubicon

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 10:26 PM

lol, you're on that list too huh.

I still am using them on the 360, but no - on PC they truly suck. Kill them all. Shame really as they're techinically brilliant but the driver writers clearly don't give a shit about em. :wallbash:

(My recent follies do seem a bit bizarre as I've always used them with no problems at all, yet all of a sudden they don't seem to work on hardly anything.)
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