Dualing booting with Mac OS X
Started by Onikhaosifix, Dec 10 2005 04:11 PM
11 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 10 December 2005 - 04:11 PM
Hello,
I do not have any problems with Windows OS, infact, I love this operating system. And as a game programmer I love the DirectX API. Initially I wanted to try out Linux but I didn't have any real reason to. I aware of the Linux variant that allows you to boot from a CD to try out the OS but I'm still not interested.
Recently I took a break from programming to focus more on web design using programs such as Adobe Photoshop CS2, ImageReady, Dreamweaver & Flash MX. When I was in highschool I worked with the Mac OS X in the computer and we had to use those programs(minus dreamweaver) to construct our website for a class project. I also remembered reading somewhere that these programs run much better on a Mac OS environment. Then the idea hit me.
I want to configurate my PC to be able to run two operating systems, Windows XP & Mac OS X. So that I can do all of my creative, artistic work on Mac OS(image manipulation, web design, music composition, etc.) and do everything else on Windows OS.
--- My questions ---
First off, is this even possible? All of the dual-boot guides I've read so far only deal with Windows XP & Linux.
If so, can any of you guys point me to such a guide that deals with dual-booting a system to run either Windows XP or Mac OS X?
From the guides I've read so far it seems like an excruciating process to configurate your PC to dual-boot. Why is it so difficult?
I'm running on a 33.4GB hard drive and I have 16GB left. If my system had two operating systems in it, will it decrease the free space left(god I hope not)?
--- System Specifications ---
Windows XP : Home Edition SP2
33.4 GB Hard drive
1.8 GHz processor
224MB Ram
32MB video card
--- Update ---
It has come to my att1ention that running Mac OS X on a x86 platform is an impossibility. So I guess running Mac OS X is out of the question.
Do any of you guys use photoshop or do serious web design on the Linux platform? How well do those applications run on Linux?
I do not have any problems with Windows OS, infact, I love this operating system. And as a game programmer I love the DirectX API. Initially I wanted to try out Linux but I didn't have any real reason to. I aware of the Linux variant that allows you to boot from a CD to try out the OS but I'm still not interested.
Recently I took a break from programming to focus more on web design using programs such as Adobe Photoshop CS2, ImageReady, Dreamweaver & Flash MX. When I was in highschool I worked with the Mac OS X in the computer and we had to use those programs(minus dreamweaver) to construct our website for a class project. I also remembered reading somewhere that these programs run much better on a Mac OS environment. Then the idea hit me.
I want to configurate my PC to be able to run two operating systems, Windows XP & Mac OS X. So that I can do all of my creative, artistic work on Mac OS(image manipulation, web design, music composition, etc.) and do everything else on Windows OS.
--- My questions ---
First off, is this even possible? All of the dual-boot guides I've read so far only deal with Windows XP & Linux.
If so, can any of you guys point me to such a guide that deals with dual-booting a system to run either Windows XP or Mac OS X?
From the guides I've read so far it seems like an excruciating process to configurate your PC to dual-boot. Why is it so difficult?
I'm running on a 33.4GB hard drive and I have 16GB left. If my system had two operating systems in it, will it decrease the free space left(god I hope not)?
--- System Specifications ---
Windows XP : Home Edition SP2
33.4 GB Hard drive
1.8 GHz processor
224MB Ram
32MB video card
--- Update ---
It has come to my att1ention that running Mac OS X on a x86 platform is an impossibility. So I guess running Mac OS X is out of the question.
Do any of you guys use photoshop or do serious web design on the Linux platform? How well do those applications run on Linux?
#2
Posted 10 December 2005 - 04:30 PM
Feel free to delete this topic. There aren't many applications on Linux that grab my attention.
#3
Posted 10 December 2005 - 05:32 PM
First it is not technically impossible to run Mac OS X on a PC. Check out http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/ .
Mac OS X has been considered more artistic than other operating systems, but I really don't have any first hand experience of it.
As far as dual booting is concerned, it is possible to dual boot Mac OS X and Linux (because Linux can run on Power PC) but not windows, as windows is not available for power pc.
You can't run the applications, which you mentioned above, natively on Linux. Many people do use these kinds of applications on Linux, but they may or may not be to your liking. GIMP is the preffered substitute for Adobe photoshop. I don't have much of an idea about the applications used for web designing on Linux. If you want to run windows based apps on Linux there is wine (http://www.winehq.com/).
Mac OS X has been considered more artistic than other operating systems, but I really don't have any first hand experience of it.
As far as dual booting is concerned, it is possible to dual boot Mac OS X and Linux (because Linux can run on Power PC) but not windows, as windows is not available for power pc.
You can't run the applications, which you mentioned above, natively on Linux. Many people do use these kinds of applications on Linux, but they may or may not be to your liking. GIMP is the preffered substitute for Adobe photoshop. I don't have much of an idea about the applications used for web designing on Linux. If you want to run windows based apps on Linux there is wine (http://www.winehq.com/).
#4
Posted 10 December 2005 - 07:30 PM
Wasn't there an x86 build for OSX? I know I've seen it somewhere.
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#5
Posted 11 December 2005 - 04:39 AM
Regardless, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Image Ready and Flash all run very well on a PC using Windows. I use them on an almost daily basis for school and work. They seem to work as well or even better than on MacOS.
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#6
Posted 11 December 2005 - 09:42 AM
Methulah said:
They seem to work as well or even better than on MacOS.
Not surprising, since each of those applications was designed first for Windows and then ported to MacOS
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#7
Posted 11 December 2005 - 10:09 AM
It is not impossible to run Mac OS X on the x86 platform because recently Apple has changed from using its PowerPC processors to the x86 processors. Im not sure there really is a speed benifit from using these applications on one platform to the other though.
@Reedbeta : I thought the Adobe applications (Photoshop etc) were originally created for the Macintosh systems (pre OS 9). (Obviously not including Dreamweaver, Flash etc.)
@Reedbeta : I thought the Adobe applications (Photoshop etc) were originally created for the Macintosh systems (pre OS 9). (Obviously not including Dreamweaver, Flash etc.)
#8
Posted 11 December 2005 - 11:05 AM
Interesting, I was with Reedbeta on that one. I thought that the application had indeed been made for x86 windows and since ported over to the Mac OS platform. However, with the new x86 processors, this only means that the new Mac OS will work on the x86 architecture, there is no garantuee (indeed it is impossible) that Mac OS X.x will work on the x86 platform whatsoever.
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#9
Posted 11 December 2005 - 12:09 PM
i should use mac os x to run traktor final scratch on it everyone sais.. then again, till now it worked great on windows xp, and, because it has an own skin it will look the same anyways..
then again, i sure one day install an x86 build on my notebook sidebyside and check it out :D it is a great os, i've run it on vmware yet on my notebook, and it looks really beautiful. but its a quite .. slow .. system. has a similar feeling to linux, where you as well want to start an application, and the os "starts thinking about how it could do that now.." :D
but thats just my feeling about those os'.. i'll continue dj'ing with final scratch on xp for now.
offtopic: it really rocks to dj with vinyl that "just got" your mp3's and ogg's dragdropped on. that augmented reality system is really awesome.
then again, i sure one day install an x86 build on my notebook sidebyside and check it out :D it is a great os, i've run it on vmware yet on my notebook, and it looks really beautiful. but its a quite .. slow .. system. has a similar feeling to linux, where you as well want to start an application, and the os "starts thinking about how it could do that now.." :D
but thats just my feeling about those os'.. i'll continue dj'ing with final scratch on xp for now.
offtopic: it really rocks to dj with vinyl that "just got" your mp3's and ogg's dragdropped on. that augmented reality system is really awesome.
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#10
Posted 12 December 2005 - 02:47 PM
The basis for Mac OS X is an opensource unix dialect. (openBSD, I think) So, its also avaiable for x86 platforms for anyone who likes to try it out. Of course, this does not include any of those fancy desktop graphics...
#11
Posted 12 December 2005 - 03:37 PM
You can do this when Apple releases its Intel-based Macs next year. You cannot run x86 Mac OS X on normal PCs (this is a artificial restriction) but you can run Windows XP on Intel-Macs.
#12
Posted 12 December 2005 - 07:11 PM
Check out OSX86project.org. The Wiki has information on installing OSX on a PC. You will however need the OSX86 cd image- where you get that is your business as it's currently available only in pirated form. If you want to run the OSX versions of photoshop and dreamweaver, you'll have to use Rosetta, which will make things slower than if you ran them natively on windows anyway.
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