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[Ed Mack]

Einheri said:

I... didn't ask that question? I'm really, really, confused, now.

It was the original question :)

[Einheri]

Yes, but Mihail seems to think that I asked it:

"i've answered your question"

Ah well, don't suppose it matters, really.

[{FluffysWhole}]

The definition of "computer" or "programming language" can be abstracted to mean "form of communication between human and machine to describe a task to perform". In which case I would say the button is the most prevaliant, prefered and powerful form of programming language :)

[DownloaderKL]

I can only say that I like C++ so far because it's all I've used (Unless you count Visual Basic 6 which was installed on my school computers. I swear the tech guy can't do anything except login as an admin and install software. He installed so much "protection" that it took him like a month to figure out how to give us permission to use Visual Basic. Then once that got working we couldn't save to a network data because yet again he installed software that he didn't know what it did so we waited another week before actually doing projects. I hated him. All teachers I've met can only use the computers to login and check email. There's not really a way to describe the way a person who can barely use a computer looks like except funny. And they say big words like "format" and "desktop icons" for no apparent reason except to sound like computer geniuses. )

[kamui4u]

I really enjoy C. it gives me a bit more control. althou im starting to use C++ again for my little project im working on. gotta relearn all that object oriented programming stuff again XD. i still prefer printf over cout...

[Kippesoep]

I primarily use C++, Pascal (Delphi), Java and PHP. Pascal is my favourite language, because memory management is a lot easier to get right than C++ and the VCL is a very capable system (although it has some limitations that take some serious dirty work if you need to get around them). I really hate Java, mostly due to negative experiences with the horrible Netbeans IDE which managed to crash upon simply typing /* to open a comment and made by 2.8GHz P4 remind me of my old 286. Also not too fond of Python. The language itself is nice, but I currently have to maintain a system that was built in it by a programmer who was, shall we say, less than competent? Stuff like that really makes you dislike the language almost as much as that programmer.

Oh, and several of my pet projects are actually written in a large amount of JavaScript (that's not as bad as it sounds -- it's used as a scripting language for my game engine, which is written in C++). Works quite nicely.

[stWasm]

hehehahahoho said:

C++, C#, COBOL, PASCAL, JAVA, and anything.....who most powerfull?!!!!!!!! :dry:

Assembly is most powerfull.

[SamuraiCrow]

stWasm said:

Assembly is most powerfull.

Actually VHDL and PROLOG can beat assembly... IF you have access to a factory that creates custom microchips from gate layout. :whistle:

[jff_f]

It depends on how you define powerful... for me c++ is the most powerful since... even if I can do things with less work in other languages I'm more efficient in c++ and I know a lot of c++ and how to optimize.

I don't think that there are ONE more powerful language cause it depends mostly on the project you're working on, the platform and many other things. I think there is a COBOL .Net so this means that you can access all the functions in the .Net Framework which also means that you can write a 3d game using Managed DirectX or any other OpenGL .Net wrapper. But is working on a game project in COBOL .Net really worth it ? But porting old COBOL application you can find in some banks, COBOL .NET might be the best since the code shouldn't change that much.

The best language is the one that you'll write what you need (performance might be an issue too) faster and won't be a pain to maintain.

If you really meant performance... getting closer to the machine code is your answer. So C or C++ (since their is not much of a difference now), maybe ASM if you want to get even closer you still can write everything in machine code using a hex editor.

A guy from EA said, in a conference at my school told us to use what will allow you to achieve our goal quickly. He was talking about using free game engines to make a demo to get a job but this thing can be applied to many things. Define your goal and learn what you need for the project. If you wanna write games you can use most languages, but if you need more frames c++ might be more suitable... but c#, java, delphi, might be a bit below but not by much (since the libraries you'll use are mostly native c/c++ you might need a wrapper). Delphi might have no loss of performance if the compiler can optimize as much as c/c++ compilers do but I can't really say since I don't program in delphi/pascal.

[Vexorian]

The most powerful ASSEMBLER.

The best is c++.

The most practical is C#

JAVA has a lot of merits too.

And the best for a start language is delphi which is just pascal with some features

[Polar Sleuth]

Why is it always assumed that Pascal is easier to learn than other languages?

Is it because it uses more words than C/C++? If you really want a language that has a minimum amount of symbols and relies heavily on words try Dylan (http://www.functionalobjects.com/). It is a fully object-oriented language that has lots of features academics love that you cannot find in C/C++, Pascal, Java, Fortran, or COBOL. If nothing else it is the most verbose language I have ever come across. Besides the compiler generates fast code that compares favorably to C and beats C++ in most cases. Of course executable size is a completely different story.

COBOL must be a near second place on the verbose scale. I haven't tried it on the new Visual Studio, so I have no idea how well it compiles ... does it compile? When I first dealt with COBOL, it was a few decades ago - so I don't remember the details of its operation.

You can go with BASIC - that is what it was designed for, after all. Part of the Pascal craze was started because it compiled when BASIC didn't. The modern version is VisualBasic on PC and ... RealBasic on the Mac.

If, however, you want to avoid anything resembling words in your computer language, there are a few of those too.

[bignobody]

anubis said:

In one of my brighter moments (in the bathroom) i took a roll of toilet paper and the black and white checker tokens i have and build myself a turing machine.

Sounds like someone was in need of a laxative :lol: