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[Michael]

anubis said:

instead of just giving one sentence you should have posted the links to the relevant sites. you shouldn't assume that others do a google search just to follow what you are saying

I think you can expect someone to do a google search when (s)he is not aware of the concept of "type erasure" while discussing generics (similar as you could expect someone to google when (s)he doesn't know about the "export" keyword when this pops up in a C++ template discussion).

Cheers,
Michael

[Ed Mack]

I quite like STL. Thorugh and through, it's benefits outweigh its (possibly only percieved) negitive points

[LuciferX]

hehe, My 'Current Project' is a children's book called "The Long Road to Mars".

Hopefully I can send you guys a copy in a year or so ;)

PS- Watch out Nomad, somtimes Trolls also can also be part-time coders.

[NomadRock]

I realize what type erasure is, but never saw it as more than a minor annoyance. I wrongfully assumed you had something more useful to say.

[Michael]

http://mindview.net/WebLog/log-0058 (code snippet at the top for a quick resume)

http://mindview.net/WebLog/log-0060 (Toby Reyelts quote)

http://onesearch.sun.com/search/developers...s&col=devforums (more background)

[Michael]

And this recently release essay might also be interesting:

http://mindview.net/WebLog/log-0061

(No, I'm not a Bruce Eckel fanboy! :))

[NomadRock]

I really dont agree with his fear of extending interfaces. All this does, is essentialy assure the existance of the functions needed. Do you have any specific qualm, or are you just pulling a "what he said".

Type erasure is definately a core issue in language design, and it deserves much debate within language designers, but this does not nullify the fact that generics bring a lot of good to the language that we did not have before.

[Michael]

Did he claim that in his articles? It's obviously an improvement.

[NomadRock]

I am trying not to talk about him. I am trying to talk about your sentiments. At any rate, this discussion is overshadowing the talk about projects. We can go more in depth somewhere else if you want to.

[Michael]

I was not making any absolute statement regarding the usefulness of generics in Java (besides the recent "It's obviously an improvement.") :)

If you feel the need for additional discussion/links/explanations/elaboration, feel free to do so in a new thread/PM/whatever.

[Smokey`]

Thankyou Michael, i hardly saw how the past (god knows how may posts) were NOT related tho this thread...

Just another reason why i dont like forums... :/

[baldurk]

Smokey` said:

Thankyou Michael, i hardly saw how the past (god knows how may posts) were NOT related tho this thread...

Just another reason why i dont like forums... :/

topics drift. That's a feature of human conversation, not forums ;).

[Ed Mack]

Exactly. When can we get rid of the humans?

[baldurk]

Ed Mack said:

Exactly. When can we get rid of the humans?

Soon. Very soon...

[Ed Mack]

On a close note, another thing I'm doing is playing Doom3 a lot since it came out for Linux.. very nice, and far too scary :eek: I'm cpu bound, so running at max resolution and full AA, but only medium game quality settings heh :) Goto love the 6800.

Anyway judging by my playing, when the creatures for Hell come, we're royally screwed!

[ShadowHawk]

Sadly enough i really dont have time for development now :(. I barely have time to play a game in between work/diving lessons/ sports / planning a vacation/ travel. And i dont want to give one of these up at this moment.
I plan to work on various smaller tools for the xenocide project if i have time. Maby i will finish the implementation of my own neural-network ( with genetic algoritm ) code in the near future.

[EvilSmile]

Me works full time on a game dev project. NDA forbids me letting out details:)
Looks like once you get into gamedev, our are out of gaming...
Not time to play anything....

[Grellin]

I am currently working on an 8 line slot machine using SDL. Was one of those projects started for the heck of it and it matured before I realized what I was doing. Oh well, it's been fun so far. Hopefully I'll have something to show soon.

[LuciferX]

"another thing I'm doing is playing Doom3 a lot since it came out "

Sounds like quite an ambitious project! ;P