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[rouncer]

Just posting this, alot of people (including me) think that zbrush
couldnt handle mechanical shapes and its best to do a bit of poly
modelling before you get into the program.

But just for the hell of it, I brushed this out 100% in zbrush and Id
like to think ive changed my mind, if I think I can 100% brush a building
I think I could. I could brush anything.



You reckon this is still too messy for a game?

[tobeythorn]

Rouncer,
Your tank looks cool, but also both mechanical and organic. ZBrush probably isn't the best tool if you want sometime very mechanical. As for whether it is too messy for a game, that all depends on what your output mesh looks like! Is it millions of polygons, or have you laid down a clean mesh?

[rouncer]

Video cards these days could render it real time, (its only 600 000 verts) its just a matter of getting more than one on the screen at once.

Then it would be a complete replica of what you see, as is now.

Ive already written a "model compressor" which sets the model automatically up with a displacement map reducted to a decent size of verts but I havent perfected the technique as well as say it is in blender.

I couldnt say im having an easy time putting it together, but dx11 tesselation is useless unless the models are properly displacement mapped.

Thanks for looking and commenting. I just cant believe that poly modelling isnt as important as I used to think it was.

[fireside]

With bump mapping you could get the same effect with a few thousand polys or less. It's an interesting design, I think. A model like that could be used to get the texture for a lower poly model. That's often done. I may have to give z brush a look one of these days. I like organic models like that.

[rouncer]

I can do normal map perfect, because there is a cheat way.
just have to wrap it when its hipoly then you reduct the verts but keep the uv.

But it dont give you a height map, so its inferior.

Trust me, mega upclose, even pore heightmaps give you visual fatness.

zbrush is easy, they say it takes less brains than poly modelling.

[rouncer]

heres another one.


compare to textured, i think its superior.

[tyree]

are you using zspheres or shapes. if you have trouble with the normal map you could retopologize it. but you shouldnt, since it started in zbrush

[rouncer]

Just zspheres, its got a mip chain automatically on it. you get automatic vertex reduction, you bake normal maps in program.

[poita]

It's not messy - it just looks like it has been made out of plasticine (not surprising for zBrush). Tanks generally have quite sharp edges.