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[rouncer]

i pulled this up in about 15 minutes, zbrush combined with art skill is an unbeatable team.
Making next gen graphics with a bit of practice is NOT impossible.

Thankyou.

[Reedbeta]

Nice! The area behind the ears and on the side of the neck looks a little weird; also the guy looks scarred a bit on his cheeks (was this intended?). But overall the face is quite good.

[rouncer]

Thanks for the crits Reed... I was so excited about it I had to upload it now without finishing it.

To get the whole body done is a bit more work tho. ;)

[Wernaeh]

Nice work !

How do you plan to animate the finished object ?

I never got the hang of ZBrush when I tried the demo version - I'm currently stuck with Cinema 4D as my main modeller, and just try to keep to technical, and less organic stuff.

Cheers,
- Wernaeh

[tyree]

zbrush was made to be easy I kid you not when I say a five year old can pick it up and end up with something. thats not an insult to rouncer, thats the reality of the software and thats a good thing. It has a horrible interface but it gets the tech out the way for the most part you should try using z spheres also extremely easy to use. you can give 3dcoat a look also

[rouncer]

hey wernaeh i LOOOOOOOOve technical too, i bet your shit has pipes going all over the place.


Yeh Tyree, its good for getting your imagination down. I got it first time, but it took me a couple of years to get to where I am now...

[tyree]

maybe you werent aware of it but its proven scientifically that artist think in a completely different manner than say an accountant someone that likes dealing with numbers. someone that enjoys the technical, order or logic. will not be as good at the artistic because its not as natural for them. the same applies to the artist doing something purely logic based

[rouncer]

I dont think thats really true, I think 100% of people can learn how to draw. Its more logical than you think, just simply remember the shape you need then repeat it.
The problem is, if theres nothing upstairs yet theres nothing to repeat from, therefore one considers himself not good at drawing.

What someone can do first time, is repeat off say a magazine picture, because its there in front of you, you needent remember any shapes so you should be able to draw it, but note you may NOT be successful because you havent learnt to look at something as close as an artist does first time.

[alphadog]

tyree said:

maybe you werent aware of it but its proven scientifically that artist think in a completely different manner

If you are talking specifically about "left brain right brain" stuff, then that's a myth. Way back in the 70s, lots of new discoveries up to that point about what gets processed where in the brain led to simplistic one-liners that has become a persistent meme in society.

It's basically graduate-level phrenology.

Now, taking "artists think in a different manner" as a more generic statement is true, but is simply a mix of nature and nurture creating a specific mix of strengths and weaknesses that leads one to and reinforces that mix.

For example, most people listening to music have a certain activity pattern across both sides of the brain. Musicians have a different pattern, because not only are they listening for enjoyment, they are also analyzing the music at the same time because it is their craft. But, does the pattern imply the person is a musician, or does the musician imply the pattern?

[tyree]

your both making programming arguments anyone can program themselves to do anything. thats just not the case and at best only partially true. while anyone can learn to draw how many of those people would go into it as a profession thats something that is already preset inside you.

while you both say its merely a matter of training. I guaruntee neither of you could give up programming and be a full time artist. even if you went back 10 years and started from there trying to be artist. you would end up where your supposed to be programming. you really think someone with a mind for writing code that thoroughly enjoys it. would be happy being a painter or scupltor or animator

[alphadog]

I do not believe that your profession is, as you say, "preset inside you".

I also don't believe that you can "program someone to do anything"; that is not what I was trying to say and you should re-read my post again.

The world is not as black-and-white as you think it is, or as you thought I made it out to be. This is an old-school nature-vs-nurture debate, where people try to sit on either end of the axis, when in fact it's a little bit of both. Simply stated, my POV is that your genetic makeup expresses one or more potentials and your environment actualizes one or more of them.

[rouncer]

Lots of people say stuff I dont necessarily agree with, I read somewhere once that because a lot of classical masters where born near sighted... people came to the conclusion if you have blurry vision youll probably be a good artist!

Something tells me this is poor logic.

I wrote some other things but I deleted them... its just down to people that believe in themselves, and people who give up early.

In fact, some artists will show ability earlier than other people, but the ones left behind will go through surges of their own advancement later, who knows who will be the best in the end.