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PlayStationX said:

i simply ask how magnets attract - in spiral or straight line.

Although I have studied QM, I basically know enough to know I don't know anything about magnetism.

At any rate, your posts confuse me in their rambling. Assuming what you basically want is captured by my quote above, I would recommend you read up on Maxwell, Lorentz and Faraday...

http://en.wikipedia....i/Lorentz_force (Since you love Wikipedia! )
http://scienceworld....rentzForce.html
http://www.mathpages.../s2-02/2-02.htm
http://musr.org/~jes...pt/E_M/E_M.html

And, when I refer you to papers, it is because the equations above are both mathematically accurate and deceptively simple-looking. Here's an example of a quick paper I dug up in five minutes of looking:

http://www.asc.tuwie...d/pps1_pamm.pdf

This is what I mean by "what are you modeling?"

[PlayStationX]

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Although I have studied QM, I basically know enough to know I don't know anything about magnetism.

its not your fault or anyone else's. its my fault because i was born too late, but i'll fix all that...

this just sounds weird because we have these silly little things on our fridge door, we use them in almost anything that has to do with electricity... yet, we have no idea how it works and what is it made of.

still, we can indirectly observe what it can do to material world, the "particles" we can see and measure. so, i actually think most of my answers are there, they are just not formulated in this way, it is just hard to "google".


sweet, sweet mystery. Mmmm Mystery...

its one of those things... and here's another one! this one will sound as trivial as magnet, but, to me, is equally mysterious! MOONS... moons, moons, moons... All these moons are yours, except Europa. Attempt no landings there.


the impossibility of moon formation due to only gravity force is as unlikely as is attraction of two neutral atoms due to only electric force. we have no idea how our moon happened, now... where the hell did all the other moons come from? ...and imagine, they are so nicely packed in rings?


did not we say that n-body system is chaotic? what's up with all the planets lining up, and where did all the moons come from, why is everything in such order?

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This is what I mean by "what are you modeling?"

im modeling Universe, Life and Everything, the Matrix itself - ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS, all there is and that what you call 'real'.


Alpha:
- This.... this isn't real?

What _is real? How do you _define real? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.



i already use Lorentz equations, thank you.
Reedbeta gave formulas i was looking for, now i only need some visual or textual reference of real-world to compare with my simulation. at this point i do not know if i have bugs or not, i simply need something to compare it to, unless you want to implement it for me and guarantee somehow formulas indeed work? ;-)

did you see this link in the OP, its very readable and illustrative: http://www.phys.unsw.../magnetism.html